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Obituary For The American Church – Mike Breen

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  • http://twitter.com/jasonegly Jason Egly

    This is phenomenal. You have hit the nail on the head. These three things are KILLING our churches, especially here in the Bible Belt. They are all subtly related, and the root sin is pride. And we know for a fact that pride precedes a fall. Thankful for your prophetic words. Prayerful that many American church leaders will wake up and answer the call to sacrificial leadership.

  • Mike

    I’ve really enjoyed many of your posts.  I did want to point out one thing that seems out of place.  In the above article, at the end of your section on consumerism, there’s an ad of sorts.  It’s an offer of a “FREE” (emphasis with all caps) ebook.  The word free is repeated three times.  It almost felt that the wording of this add appeals to the consumerism that affects us. 

    Just wanted to point this out

  • Todd

    Every generation since Adam has had their “celebrity, consumerism, and competition” sin issues.  Maybe in different forms of character sin…but all generations have had it.   At Exponential we just completed a devotional study of 30 Bible Leaders (from Adam to Peter) through the lens of their personal stories of sifting (with sifiting defined as “worldly troubles intersecting with spiritual warfare to produce increased surrender to God”).  These daily devotionals (http://www.storiesofsifted.com) highlight that in every generation God uses messed up leaders to accomplish his purposes.  Trouble…sin…character issues…surrender.   Most pathways of following Jesus point to increased surrender.  God has his way of humbling his people to repentance and surrender.  Unfortunately, the notion of an obituary on the church may be a rallying cry for many, not because of a concern for the surrender of the leaders, but rather because of distaste for our current forms of church.  

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  • sam

    Living in Europe, what would the 3 issues of Europe be?

    • http://twitter.com/Mike_Breen Mike Breen

      I think the implications are different for different countries in Europe. In the UK I’d probably say it would be like this:
      Authority=Class system
      Ambition=Manipulation (think of Machiavelli’s “The Prince”)
      Appetite=Scarcity mentality (both economically and spiritually)

      • Josh

        Thanks for your article.  Above, you mention “authority=Class system.”  Can you elaborate on this more?  I ask because I do not believe there has ever been a system without classes… It seems that the church has thrived the most in such systems in history and at present (underground, perhaps).  Do you mean that the church became part of that system lock stock & alter?  I can see that.  You narrowed these terms down to the UK.  I agree, but think the church in the UK was more vibrant than the church on the continent.  There were more freedoms in the UK–so many “dissenting” sects that remain vibrant today.  –  Thanks for your thoughts!

  • Guest Responsder

    What is to “sacrifice”?  We should only be grateful for God’s relentless grace to us sinners and rejoice that he loves us so much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.hollinghurst Steve Hollinghurst

    Mike – i can see that this is perhaps extra on the button the US side of the pond but think there is much in this back here in the UK – and i must confess that even some level of publicly recognized ministry – d list Christian celebrity ;o) – suddenly pushes all sorts of pressures in ones direction – the discipline of blessing others becomes very important. So i think central to what you explore here is leadership that is about taking the lower place that the body is built up and discipleship that is cross shaped – these are always important – and hard ;o) – but perhaps especially so when culture pushes so much in the opposite direction 

  • http://twitter.com/mahoneyrm5150 Ryan Mahoney

    Wow.  Fantastic piece; spot on; truly insightful.

  • Michael

    Consumerism is evident in the very way in which we perceive exactly who it is we are called to serve.  In the very beginning, this article opens with a challenge as to how one would be rendered “unable” to serve one’s “family and community”.  Where is the Lord in this equation?  I think, then, this is the underlying problem in all three categories; our “willingness” to serve the Lord first.  If we are looking to serve the Lord first and foremost, we are going to be no good to our families, our communities, or our churches.  Our willingness to serve the Lord first renders us able to serve all others.  

    I appreciate the article because it gets very close, but I perceive the problem to be even bigger.  We do not love the Lord first.  Sacrifice and repentance have been lost on us because, as one responder observed, “why the need for sacrifice?”  Indeed.  Question answered.

  • Michael

    Consumerism is evident in the very way in which we perceive exactly who it is we are called to serve.  In the very beginning, this article opens with a challenge as to how one would be rendered “unable” to serve one’s “family and community”.  Where is the Lord in this equation?  I think, then, this is the underlying problem in all three categories; our “willingness” to serve the Lord first.  If we are looking to serve the Lord first and foremost, we are going to be no good to our families, our communities, or our churches.  Our willingness to serve the Lord first renders us able to serve all others.  

    I appreciate the article because it gets very close, but I perceive the problem to be even bigger.  We do not love the Lord first.  Sacrifice and repentance have been lost on us because, as one responder observed, “why the need for sacrifice?”  Indeed.  Question answered.

  • Michael

    CORRECTION: “If we are NOT willing to serve the Lord first and foremost …”

  • Michael

    CORRECTION: “If we are NOT willing to serve the Lord first and foremost …”

  • http://www.CrazyAboutChurch.com/ Charles Specht

    Sadly, I couldn’t agree more.  The American church needs a 180-degree reformation.  And soon!

    PS: I absolutely love, love, love the picture used in this article. 

  • Lamar Carnes

    Scripture is always our marching order manual.  When the Holy Spirit came down on the existing ekklesia, a local body of believers in the area, they received POWER to witness Christ to the surrounding human beings in the area insomuch so, an individual named Peter preached “ONE” sermon and thousands of people were saved at once.  Now that is a “mega-church” if I have ever heard of one formed instantly without “outside” means other than a human being filled with the Holy Spirit and power by Him to witness Christ to those who heard the message.  So, I never have any fear at all about “numbers” being counted – they did in Acts – so are we somehow more spiritual and have greater revelations than the Apostles had who wrote the books of the Bible? 
       Certainly, if a person or group misuses “means” to get people to “a meeting” and “coerce them into making some type of a decision” we would know it is not following protocal at all Biblically speaking.  I would pray and support Holy Spirit word filled preaching and expect God to save many souls after such a message is preached. If He doesn’t He received glory anyway because the messsage is two-fold; either redemption or judicial hardening!  It always does what it was intended to do so says the Lord! 

       And may I say, the large group saved in the book of Acts were certainly discipled and taught the word and carried out many fuctions congregationally as taught by our Lord Jesus to the Apostles.

       All of the rhetoric given today trying to “make” things better because we see and observe many things out of order in traditional venues can mean we “tear” up some “means” which have been absued and not used properly.  We need to never throw out that which is meaningful, helpful, and can be of vital use in the kingdom, just because it is old or traditional.  New things may be “bad” or misused also.  We have to be careful all the time we follow scriptural mandates and the over all spiritual sense of bringing glory to God in our utilization of means and methods! 

    Let’s not become so “miopic” we begin to be like those we accuse of being off base in their approaches to serving God!  Becoming like those who are entrapped in “religion” can eventually produce another “religious” entrapment of pride and arrogance if not careful.

  • http://brandonacox.com Brandon A. Cox

    I’ve had a lot of conversations about this in the last few weeks, especially the celebrity culture. I think we have to be careful abou tour attitude toward “celebrity” Pastors. Not all of them chose it. For some, it was thrust upon them by a culture that is celebrity-crazed. Some handle it with the utmost integrity and others fall prey to pride. Heaven forbid, though, that we actually begin to believe all the fluffly stuff people say about us! Praise is one of life’s greatest tests of character.

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